Who is joffrey father

Robb knows that the king won't agree to any of his demands, but he capitalizes on one more opportunity to invite his enemy's underestimations.

After the meeting, Theon Greyjoy tells Robb that the war won't end until they have the ships to take King's Landing - ships that his father, Balon Grejoy, could provide. When Robb tells his mother that he's sending Theon to the Iron Islands with the proposal, she balks: "He's not trustworthy. Your father had to go to war to end his rebellion. Instead, Robb tells her to ride south to negotiate with Renly Baratheon to join forces against Joffrey.

Cersei approaches Joffrey as he has his throne room redecorated, asking him to send men to find Arya Stark so they can trade her and her sister Sansa for Jaime's freedom. Joffrey is suspicious of her interest in his uncle - he, too, has heard the rumors of his true parentage - and he knows that King Robert Baratheon had other children outside his marriage with Cersei. The act is punishable by death, Joffrey tells her: "You'll never do it again.

Later, at Littlefinger's brothel in King's Landing, some gold cloaks force their way into the room and rip a baby from the arms of its mother. As she screams, the City Watch commander himself, Janos Slynt, kills the infant - one of many of Robert's bastards that the gold cloaks murder.

Joffrey's view on his own family immediate and alleged both was extremely influenced by his own impulsiveness and self-absorption, and it is clear he does not truly hold his family in high regards.

Despite her protectiveness of him and constant support for his actions for most of his life, he was entirely comfortable being misogynistic and condescending towards Cersei - insulting her status as a woman, and mocking Robert Baratheon's disloyalty to her. Joffrey taunted and belittled his true father Jaime Lannister as an unexceptional knight and for the loss of his hand.

In addition, he apparently bullied and tormented Tommen and Myrcella their entire lives, never connecting with them the way, for example, the Starks did, and even considering Tommen weak for crying like any normal person.

Even his grandfather Tywin Lannister was a person he held in contempt, being arrogant enough to furiously accuse Tywin of being a coward during Robert's Rebellion , in comparison to Robert Baratheon who climactically killed Rhaegar Targaryen in combat and took the crown for himself.

This particular scene is interesting, because Joffrey did almost exactly this: Tyrion and Tywin fought, bled and prevailed against the insurgent Stannis Baratheon, while Joffrey hid behind the walls of the Red Keep without even killing a single invader personally. Based on all this, Robert was probably the only relative that Joffrey held in any high regard - and Robert wasn't even Joffrey's father. The worst relationship that Joffrey had was with his uncle Tyrion, and on several occasions Tyrion stymied and accosted Joffrey for his sadistic, cruel and arrogant actions, and Joffrey at several points went to petty means of mocking and deriding him.

This probably influenced Joffrey's urge to point at Tyrion mere moments before he died, as one final stab at his uncle for so much as standing in his way. The only person that seemed to be at all capable of controlling Joffrey was Tywin, who was able to intimidate Joffrey by mere presence.

For instance, on the occasion where Joffrey accused Tywin of cowardice, Tywin simply sent the boy king to bed. Joffrey was rather narcissistically obsessed with the hypocritical self-conception that he was a great warrior like King Robert, but displayed no martial skill.

Joffrey never raised a weapon against an enemy combatant in his entire life, excluding Tyrion's birthday present to him, despite bragging melodramatically that he would personally cut down Robb Stark and Stannis Baratheon in battle which he never came close to at any point in the war. Particularly, despite the fact that his faction was losing the war and bracing for a siege in King's Landing , Joffrey insisted that was the time for him to strike against the Stark forces as they were distracted by the Fall of Winterfell.

However, Tyrion pointed out that his own city was on the verge of attack by Stannis's superior forces. His delusions were so extensive that during breakfast prior to his wedding - Joffrey noted, after receiving the Valyrian steel sword Widow's Wail , that using it would be like cutting off Ned Stark's head all over again - implying that he was the one who beheaded Lord Eddard, even though he simply ordered it and Ilyn Payne was the one who actually beheaded him.

He also boasted, before the Battle of the Blackwater , that he would personally engage Stannis and kill him in combat, but never crossed the latter in combat throughout the entirety of the battle. Later on, to add stupidity to absurdity, he arrogantly claimed that he saved King's Landing and personally broke Stannis Baratheon at the Battle of the Blackwater, when it was in fact entirely down to his uncle and grandfather's military efforts, whereas Joffrey turned coward and fled the battle, and Stannis himself was not entirely broken because he could still pose a threat to his opponents in the war and his claim still stood to reason.

His bloodlust was often overpowered by sheer cowardice. He rarely killed manually nor did he initiate a fight where his opponent stood a decent chance of besting him. Because of this he preferred tormenting animals and vulnerable people rather than fighting warriors and regularly went on hunts because of this akin to Robert, but at least the latter was legitimately skilled at fighting men.

Aptly described as a vicious idiot king by his uncle Tyrion, Joffrey was not simply a ruthless, exceedingly cruel tyrant, but absurdly incompetent. While Robert was also not skilled at ruling though not as bad as Joffrey , he was at least respected as a great warrior.

Joffrey, in contrast, had no redeeming values whatsoever: his only claim to rule was that he was the son of Robert, the previous king. The great irony, of course, was that Joffrey was actually Jaime's bastard son and had no valid claim to the throne, but a shockingly large number of Joffrey's followers continued to blindly obey his crazed orders without question.

After hearing the rumors of his true parentage, Joffrey unwisely ordered that all of Robert's bastards be killed to make sure nobody would legitimately challenge his claim, which backfired drastically and only served to heighten suspicions when the people saw it as Joffrey destroying the evidence of the truth.

This is one of the several occasions where Joffrey overextends himself, the other being when he apparently sends Ser Mandon Moore to kill Tyrion during the Battle of the Blackwater, ignoring two factors: Tyrion was leading Joffrey's men against Stannis when Joffrey abandoned the battle; also the Kingsguard at least, by reputation only ever serve major members of the royal family, among whom Joffrey is supreme, and his hatred of Tyrion is far too well known.

Thus, Joffrey's actions are never properly calculated, and he never anticipates repercussions from them. Joffrey possesses all of the classical traits of narcissism, as he possesses an outrageous temper, is delusional about his self importance and superiority, and quick to torment and harm anyone who displeases him.

He is known for his unstable mannerisms and affect when insulted, and has a very short fuse. He lacks remorse and empathy towards people, and has no ability or desire to expand it, and he is entirely apathetic and even cold towards his brother Tommen when the latter cries over the departure of his sister Myrcella - he even conceitedly claimed that princes shouldn't cry, despite the fact that he was witnessed crying himself.

When confronted with this fact, he brushed it aside when Sansa pointed out that her brother Rickon cried himself, to which Joffrey claimed it was irrelevant because Rickon Stark wasn't a prince and Joffrey was , but he did not stop to speculate that this didn't make the slightest scrap of difference.

Once in a while, Joffrey does make a valid point, such as that the feudal levy system in the Seven Kingdoms is somewhat antiquated, or that his advisors should be worried about Daenerys Targaryen reportedly hatching three new dragons in Essos or that his grandfather Tywin Lannister bode his time before he finally aided the rebels during Robert's Rebellion.

Joffrey was capable of logic but only if the solution was obvious and even then he got it wrong. After being poisoned at his wedding feast he incorrectly assumed that it was Tyrion's doing. Presumably, he came to this conclusion due to his uncle's constant chiding, insulting and threatening as well his use of physical punishment to discipline his wild, uncontrollable nephew or the fact that he was made cupbearer and the only person who held the opportunity to poison his wine this makes no sense, however, as Joffrey made Tyrion his cupbearer on the spot to humiliate him further and he would have no chance to poison him.

His hatred of his uncle might have also been a factor in this conclusion. Generally, however, Joffrey only rarely made a valid insight as a means for the narrative to underscore that everyone else is overlooking something, i. Similarly, while he vaguely said that having a standing royal army was better than using feudal levies, Cersei had to explain to him that his suggestion for how to make one was too impractical to work if a royal army conscripts men from the North, they still wouldn't feel enthusiastic about attacking their fellow Northmen.

Joffrey may also have been correct when he said that the Stark forces were distracted after the Fall of Winterfell, and that would have been the perfect opportunity to strike, but once again Tyrion had to remind him that his own city was preparing for a siege by Stannis Baratheon. Despite his lack of technical abilities and shortcomings in battle or combat, he was surprisingly knowledgeable on crossbows which he demonstrates to Margaery, knowing their make and models, effectiveness and was able to use them quite well, being able to shoot a bolt through the eye of a wall-mounted stuffed boar's head several meters away.

His only direct kill with one, however, was Ros , a prostitute whom he restrained, and it was shown that he missed his shot multiple times due to the scattered arrows across the room though these may have been him torturing her with the threat of death by missing intentionally, which would not be outside the realm of possibility for somebody like Joffrey.

Despite all these negative traits, however, Joffrey is shown to be capable of feeling very limited emotion. On Robert's deathbed, he is visibly shocked and saddened that his legal father may be dying and holds his hand, and in the books it is stated by various characters that Joffrey was very fond of Sandor Clegane despite his outwardly aloof manner towards him.

He was probably more fond of the Hound because the man was a prolific and savage warrior, and had no complaints or restraints about killing, disregarding the fact that the Hound hated his even more savage brother , who was probably more aggressive and impractically violent than Joffrey himself, making him more interested in the Hound's combat prowess and aloofness and Joffrey probably would have been terrified of the Mountain.

He treated Margaery Tyrell much better than he did with Sansa Stark during their betrothal, although this is due to Margaery manipulating him by pretending to be intrigued by his playful sadism.

On the other hand, he also acted charming and kind to Sansa, initially before turning her into his plaything to abuse and this one act was because his mother demanded him to do so, but he only became this way after her father confessed treason and her brother raised his armies against his claim.

A major point in the story is that Joffrey has absolutely no redeeming qualities other than that he is rather handsome. He is not simply cruel, but an utter imbecile, and dangerously incompetent when dealing with his power base in House Lannister.

Even from a standpoint of ruthless practicality, Joffrey is an insane idiot who does more harm to House Lannister than good. Even so, people in the narrative who haven't met Joffrey, or only seen him in public events at King's Landing, have difficulty accepting that he is is a cruel lunatic. This goes against the simplistic world view that has been impressed on them by their own popular culture of romance songs and poetry.

Sansa, in particular, became obsessed with Joffrey after encountering him simply because he was very handsome, even though she knew absolutely nothing about his personality. Even into the first months of Joffrey's reign as king, many commoners assume that the "good King Joffrey" will soon restore peace and order and put an end to the war. At first, some can't really grasp that Joffrey himself started the war with a flippant outburst which killed Eddard Stark, and thus assume Eddard may have deserved it given that no "sane" ruler would randomly execute a major lord without justification.

Only gradually and grudgingly do people start to suspect that Joffrey might not be a fit king, but even then they try to rationalize this disconnect between Joffrey's beautiful appearance and horrible personality by latching onto the belief that assuredly Joffrey's uncle, the "demon-monkey" dwarf Tyrion, must be leading the attractive boy astray with bad counsel. Only after Joffrey has several meltdowns in open court, and brazenly commits several atrocities in full view of the public i.

He is described as a handsome young man, with the gold hair and green eyes of the Lannisters, and is tall and strong for his age. Joffrey is not a POV character. Tyrion occasionally tries to teach him something of politics and learning, but he is uninterested in such matters, more interested in warring.

He and Robert have a distant relationship, but his mother dotes upon him. Throughout the books, Cersei is willfully blind to Joffrey's insane and homicidal behavior, no matter how ridiculous or cruel. Rather than recognize the monster that she has unleashed on the Seven Kingdoms by putting Joffrey on the throne, Cersei embraces the fantasy that he is a great king, or at worst "willful", and chides her younger son Tommen that he should try to be more like Joffrey.

Later books also retroactively reveal that Tommen has lived in terror of Joffrey his entire life. Joffrey killed and skinned at least one of Tommen's childhood pets, yet Cersei continued to dote on him. At one point Tommen even says that he used to "go away inside" mentally when Joffrey did certain things to him, though the exact extent of what he did killing his pets or something far more sinister has not been made clear. At one point, Joffrey, as a child, was told that a kitchen cat was pregnant.

Upon this discovery, he cut open the cat and took out the unborn kitten fetuses. He presented the fetuses to his "father", wanting to gain approval from him, but Robert was shocked and disgusted by this action, which caused him to hit Joffrey so hard that two of his baby teeth are knocked out; Stannis, who was dining with Robert at the time, later opines to Davos and Melisandre that he genuinely thought Robert had killed Joffrey.

Cersei brushes off Joffrey's actions as some nonsense with a cat, and threatens to kill Robert in his sleep if he ever harms Joffrey again. The reason for Joffrey's sociopathic, borderline-insane behavior is suspected to be due to his incestuous parentage, much like some of the earlier Targaryen kings.

However, Joffrey also had a distant relationship with his "father" Robert, his mother spoiled him, and he lacked any good role models throughout his childhood, which heavily contributed to his mental instability. From a strict technical standpoint, Joffrey is not "insane" in the sense that Aerys was, in that he didn't suffer from hallucinations.

Otherwise, Joffrey is a megalomaniacal sociopath by any measure. In the second book, A Clash of Kings , Joffrey at several points shoots and kills peasants with his crossbow, for largely imagined insults. When crowds of refugees from the war he started come to the castle gates to beg for bread, he picks them off with his crossbow from the battlements, for daring to consider him "a baker.

When Sansa asks if he killed any of the peasants, Joffrey matter-of-factly states that of course he did, he was trying to kill them. He also expresses fondness for making men fight to the death and giving "justice" to criminals. In the book, however, it is not Joffrey who orders the massacre of Robert's bastards, but Cersei.

The books make no mention of Joffrey doubting that Robert was his father, while in the television series, it is Joffrey who gives the order, implying that basically, Joffrey knows or at least suspects that Robert wasn't really his father, and he is doing his best to destroy the evidence. After his death, with the exception of his mother, Joffrey is not particularly mourned by anyone; there are no public displays of grief at his passing, and even his real father openly professes that Joffrey was no more to him that a "squirt of seed" and deserved to die.

Stannis is quite content to hear about Joffrey's death, recalling how he once cut a pregnant cat open; he comments " Dwarf or leech, this killer served the kingdom well. Although it has not been proved conclusively, it is highly likely that Joffrey is the one who sent the catspaw assassin to kill Bran; Jaime and Tyrion reach that conclusion independently, based on circumstantial evidence.

In the books, Joffrey is the fourth and the last, by the point the books reached of the titular leaders in the War of the Five Kings to die, following Robb. In the books, Joffrey dies after the other two "usurpers" Balon and Robb, against whom Stannis and Melisandre performed the leech ritual.

Similarly to the deaths of Balon and Robb, it seems that Joffrey's death did not get Stannis even one step closer to the Iron Throne. However, since Stannis is still alive in the books, it can be argued that Joffrey's death may assist him indirectly : it has triggered a chain of events that resulted in Tywin's death - and from that point began the gradual decline of House Lannister, mainly due to Cersei's total incompetence as a ruler.

Considering how far the show strayed from the books in respect of the plotlines of Sansa, Dorne and more , it is not impossible that Stannis will survive the Battle of Winterfell , and may take advantage of the unstable state of affairs at King's Landing. Fans sometimes derisively assume that "Joffrey Baratheon" should really be called "Joffrey Lannister", because of his status as the bastard offspring of the incestuous relationship between Cersei and Jaime, and not the son of King Robert Baratheon at all.

This is actually in error, as according to the customs of bastardy, Joffrey doesn't even have the right to use the surname "Lannister. All of this, of course, would only happen if Jaime were to openly acknowledge Joffrey as his son, which is an impossibility given the disastrous political fallout this would create.

Furthermore, as the product of not merely bastardy, but incest, the Faith of the Seven would want to outright kill Joffrey as an abomination before the gods if his actual parentage were ever revealed.

Therefore from a strict legal standpoint, given that Jaime will never acknowledge his children with Cersei, Joffrey has no right to any surname, and should properly just be called "Joffrey" as if he were a lowborn commoner. Joffrey is stated to be 17 years old in the TV series at the time of the Battle of the Blackwater, as stated in " The Prince of Winterfell. Sansa states that she is 13 years old in the first episode of Season 1, but is 11 in the first novel. This would make TV-Joffrey 16 years old in Season 1, which is stated to be 17 years after Robert and Cersei were married at the end of Robert's Rebellion which was increased from 15 years ago in the TV series.

Cersei also states that she became pregnant with a son by Robert at the very beginning of her marriage who died in infancy. Assuming that Cersei's first son died even a few days after birth, this requires a nine month pregnancy, plus another nine month pregnancy before Joffrey was born assuming she became pregnant quite soon after her first son died , meaning Joffrey could have been born no earlier than sixteen and a half years before the beginning of the narrative - drastically increasing Joffrey's age to sixteen years old in Season 1 strains the plausibility of this timetable, and drastically increasing his age by four years instead of two like the other characters may have been a dialogue error in "The Prince of Winterfell", in order to make a forced comparison between Joffrey and how Jaime was such a skilled warrior at seventeen that he became the youngest man ever to join the Kingsguard.

Another possibility is that Tyrion meant that Joffrey was almost 17 and that he was actually 16 during Season 2. Aegon I 1—? Game of Thrones Wiki. Game of Thrones Wiki Explore. Game of Thrones. House of the Dragon. Peterson - linguist. Patel - director. Vhagar Caraxes Syrax Meleys Sunfyre. Explore Wikis Community Central. Register Don't have an account? Joffrey Baratheon. View source. History Talk Do you like this video?

Play Sound. This article is about the King of the Andals and the First Men. For other uses, see: Joffrey. I'll GUT you, you little cunt! Stripped of all titles and powers, he would serve the Realm in permanent exile. And my lady Sansa Robert was only his legal father, however, as he was actually the offspring of Cersei and her brother, Ser Jaime Lannister.

In appearance, Joffrey was tall for his age. He was handsome, but had a petulant, spiteful visage that spoiled his good looks. Joffrey had curly blonde hair and fierce green eyes.

He was remarked by Jon Snow to look quite like a girl. Joffrey was slim but not especially strong, nor robust. He was not especially skilled at combat, despite much practice - he matched Robb Stark in sparring, but never fought in an actual battle. Whilst handsome, he often adopted a sneering expression which rendered him less attractive. He always dressed in fine clothes and wielded weapons of extravagant and boisterous names. Despite him allegedly being a Baratheon, he very ironically completely favoured the colours of his mother's house.

Joffrey was also likened by others more to a lion than a stag - a reflection that he held more Lannister pride than he did Baratheon strength. Joffrey was vain, arrogant, barely-educated, ignorant in many key areas and believed that force was the answer to every problem - in fact, aggression, violence and bloodlust was his trigger reaction to any threat that approached him.

Despite being, at best, a decent swordsman in friendly matches, Joffrey was not a great warrior nor a commander of men, even though he staunchly believed himself to be both of these things. Joffrey never fought his own battles if he could afford it, relying almost completely on bodyguards or warriors at his disposal, or on the authority he inherited unjustly as king. By the end of A Storm of Swords , he has almost certainly heard the rumors Although it is at least possible he is isolated enough that he doesn't know the truth , but he still refers to Robert as "Father", and doesn't seem to have any particular interest in Jaime, especially not as a father figure.

If he is aware, he is hiding it from everyone, including Cersei. As already stated, Joffrey must have been aware of the rumors flying about his incestuous parentage however there is no evidence that he ever knew them to be true or spared them a thought. One thing is missing however, who did Joffrey believe to be his father? Cersei frowned. He was only a child himself.

If he knew the whole thing was Joffrey's work, that might be why. So Jaime, who had been around Joffrey for all his life, states here that Joffrey was hungry for attention and affection from Robert, the man he believed to be his father. This attention-seeking behavior can be linked to Robert's negligence but why should Joffrey develop it unless he truly believed Robert to be his father?

This is not the only instance where we see this complex. Joffrey had killed a pregnant cat and took unborn kittens out of the womb which I suspect is because he thought that would make Robert give him some attention.

He got the attention, not quite the kind he was expecting however. I did not fight a war to seat Robert the Second on the Iron Throne.

You gave me to understand the boy cared nothing for his father. Robert ignored him. He would have beat him if I'd allowed it. That brute you made me marry once hit the boy so hard he knocked out two of his baby teeth, over some mischief with a cat.

I told him I'd kill him in his sleep if he ever did it again, and he never did, but sometimes he would say things. A smart guy like Tywin immediately figures out that Joffrey actually cares about his Daddy or at least likes him enough to be proud of him. Of course Cersei glosses over the actual mischief out of fear of Lord Tywin's reaction. I remember once, this kitchen cat. One told the boy that she had kittens in her belly, thinking he might want one.

Joffrey opened up the poor thing with a dagger to see if it were true. When he found the kittens, he brought them to show to his father. Robert hit the boy so hard I thought he'd killed him. They must send for me now. Moreover before that, we find Joffrey's own statements where he shows pride in his father Robert as compared to his Grandfather. Joffrey had that sullen, sulky look he got. Cersei had him firmly by the shoulder, but perhaps she should have had him by the throat.

The boy surprised them all. Instead of scuttling safely back under his rock, Joff drew himself up defiantly and said, "You talk about Aerys, Grandfather, but you were scared of him. Oh, my, hasn't this gotten interesting? Tyrion thought. Lord Tywin studied his grandchild in silence, gold flecks shining in his pale green eyes. Everyone knows it's true.